Syllogisms
Doug writes (see Reading Update) "There's nowt so queer as cyberspace, as my old grandad would have said had he not died many years before its invention."
From which we posit:
Real space is discovered.
Cyber space is invented (not discovered).
ergo
Cyber space is not real space.
Or one could write
Existing space is discovered.
Cyber space is invented (not discovered).
ergo
Cyber space does not exist as space
As cyberspace is real and does exist, one conclusion I see is that it is not space. What is a definition of space? Something with four dimensions - height, length, breadth and time? If it is not space, what is it? Is the answer only formulable in boringly complex electro-mathematical symbolism? This would not satisfy me.
I suppose another conclusion could be that something invented can be real and exist. So the question is, what is the difference between something discovered and something invented? You discover something which is already there, you invent something by rearranging what is already there. So, does the problem arise out of linguistic confusion and, thus explained, vanish in a Wittgenseinian puff of smoke?
POST SCRIPTUM
Am I just making a category mistake, a la Gilbert Ryle? As I never got around to reading The Concept of Mind, I wouldn't know. Perhaps the language is too loose for logic. (Too Loose For Logic - another one of those possible titles for my autobiography).

8 Comments:
I note that that height, length and breadth end ght, gth, and dth. Probably time for bed.
In the sober light of day, I agree with philosopherhousewife that it comes down to what you mean by space, and I'm sure that medieval logicians would have disapproved of my categoricals, but then so do most people.
As for the discover/invent question - oddly music seems to be the one example where platonic types almost hold water. Music is mathematics, nature (the aeolian harp) and the universe (the music of the spheres) so maybe it is all out there awaiting the best discoverers. Refs please.
Doug is wary of the language he uses given the intense scrutiny a little neologism may spark off on this site. (Does that mean I've invented a word? - see previous posts.) Just a word on the Platonic notion of music: the shift from 'music' as the baseline reference/category for that stuff we enjoy through our ears, to 'sound' as the baseline (as with John Cage) throws the idea of form itself into doubt. It certainly puts the ball back in our subjective/cultural court as regards constructing something from what are arbitrary stimuli. Maybe even Beethoven would have like to have broken out of 'music' in as much as he seems to want to hit every note on the scale; had there been more notes, he'd've hit them as well, the saucy old bugger.
For some reason the above entry is registered as anonymous. It's not, it's me.
Doug
I'm less concerned that you appear as anonymous, than that you refer to yourself as "Doug". This way madness lies. Now you are "Doug", I trust this self-reference will cease.
I'm generally with you on the lack of a clear distinction between music and sound, though I suspect mathematicians could come up with an alternative (don't why, I just do).
Doug is especially wary now that a little self-referentiality is scrutinised so closely on this site. Although it does make him sound a bit like Gollum. And a bit mad, you're right. That Seinfeld episode where Elaine gets chatted up at the gym springs to mind. 'Jimmy's new in town; he'd really like to take you out sometime...' the guy says, referring to himself, not the hunk she'd thought.
PPYD, write something about Guy Fawkes. Apparently the little one from Top Gear was on ITV the other night constructing a life-size, 'authentic' version of the 17th century Parliament. Why? Why would anyone give some diminutive fucker from blokeland the ackers to do such a thing? Working in the interests of 'history', he was testing the effects on the building of (adopt Clarksonian manner) Thirty-SIX...barrelsofGUNPOWDER. As infantile as throwing caravans off cliffs in Topgear, the pompous runt concludes that the blast would've bee mighty enough to take out St Pauls (I suppose it was built then) and he compares it to - guess what? - 9/11. What a lot of historiographical toss. Still, St Pauls though...
I remember the Seinfeld episode well (and, fyi, I just read that ITV4 - whatever that is - has started reruns of Larry Sanders. Let's hope it's available on my freeview box) though I feel unable to comment on fireworks bollocks (or indeed Jezza Clarkson's thoughts on the subject) due to lack of knowledge and interest, and you have done so already. Perhaps I will have changed my mind by tomorrow. After all, my last post was on 1st November, and I feel my public are crying out for more.
The Gunpowder business (which was 5/11, and obviously not to be confused with 9/11, as any fule no) was in 1605. The first service to take place in the current St Paul's was in 1697. I couldn't work out whether your "I suppose it was built then" comment was suffused with sarcasm or a genuine query, but I treat these two impostors just the same.
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